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LEGO Creator Expert Horizon Express (10233)

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Product Description

Fly down the track in the Horizon Express! Collect this highly detailed LEGO® interpretation of a modern, high-speed electric passenger train! The detailed body features black train windows, brick-built chevron detailing, extendable pantographs, printed windscreen and brick-built doors. Remove the roof to play inside 2 detailed passenger cars! Steer from the front engine car with, a control panel and brick-built electrical box! Then take to the tracks in luxury with the first-class car's seats, luggage, newspapers, computer screen and even a bathroom with sliding door! The rear car features a bar with hinged counter, tables for the passengers with seats, a coffee machine, cups and bottles. For the ultimate high-speed experience, attach a second Horizon Express model, or motorize it by adding LEGO Power Functions! Hard-to-find elements include orange LEGO bricks (including 6x28 chassis plate) and printed tiles. Includes 6 minifigures: train engineer, train steward, and 4 passengers.

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049223

C870690F

673419189743

6024477

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4.1 pounds

20.0 x 11.0 x 3.8

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LEGO Creator Expert Horizon Express (10233)
 
4.7

(based on 64 reviews)

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92%

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Most Helpful Positive Review

 

Good Train Set but Upgrades Compromised

Pros: Looks good with detailed brickwork and orange parts Nice minifigures Good techniques to learn Good black 1x2x3 windows - bring back the proper 1x2x3 train window glass piece! New brackets useful for MOCs...Read complete review

Pros: Looks good with detailed brickwork and orange parts Nice minifigures Good techniques to learn Good black 1x2x3 windows - bring back the proper 1x2x3 train window glass piece! New brackets useful for MOCs Value kept up by reduction in wheels & couplings. Cons: Orange baseplates not so useful for MOCs as grey or black. Orange sloped front pieces not so useful for MOCs. The couplings are poor - this is common to all recent LEGO trains. The couplings have rotating magnets inside. This was needed for children's safety so they cannot be swallowed. However, this spaced apart the magnets with air and plastic in between, weakening the coupling grip. Sometimes the grip is particularly weak so that the engine pulls away leaving the coaches behind. This can be cured by waving the two couplings around each other - above, below and at the sides - to unstick the rotation of the magnets. Unfortunately this means the couplings are unreliable and cannot be used for shunting. Cannot expect the user to pick up the engine and coach to wave the magnets every time! I use 2x2 plates with hole (as on the shared bogie), 1x5 thin liftarm and 2 1.5M pegs for permanent couplings for a rake of wagons. This is strong enough for 4 heavy 8x64 coaches. As an "Expert" set this is aimed at the AFOL market. Its advertising in the catalogue suggests adding a second Horizon Express model. This is a deliberate ploy to make the train with two streamlined ends. I bought 2 sets. The advertising also advocates upgrading it with Power Functions. I added all those parts. However, the two recommended upgrades are incompatible with each other. One motor is not enough to power a 6-car train, especially if your layout has any hills. The motor itself is good but you need a medium speed setting just to move the train so there is no fun left in changing speed. My hills are not steep, only up to the maximum of 1 in 30 recommended for model railways. This is 1 plate in 12 studs long. 1 in 40 on curves is 1 plate in 16 studs. The train runs away down a hill and struggles up a hill. Speed 4 or 5/7 of PWM is OK but less will not get up the hill and more can derail at the bottom going down it. 9V trains could use insulating tape to make sections and diodes to drop voltage on the downhill sections but PF trains need an automatic speed setting for each location, driven from an NXT with IR Link sensor (I expect the NXT EV3 with its IR sensor would work just as well when it is released). The train is vulnerable to the shared bogie derailing, especially when the motor is pushing from the rear. This might be just like the real train - some types with shared bogies have suffered this. To motorise a double set there are different ways: a) 2 motors at the front: Needs room for a pole reverser switch in the engine and the 2nd motor will widen the gap to the next carriage. This still has the coupling detachment vulnerability. b) 1 motor at the front and 1 at the back, each engine upgraded as per upgrade instructions: The pulling motor has to be faster than the pushing motor or the train will derail. The two IR receivers in the two engines have to be on the same channel. The rear engine needs a pole reverser switch to reverse its motor as it is the other way round. The two IR receivers have to both get the same signal or the train will derail or split. Multiple motors needing the same signal, combined with the 2-motor power limit of an IR receiver, is a fundamental problem with Power Functions trains that TLG has not addressed. We need a slave motor driver, like the IR receiver but taking a motor drive input instead of IR. Then one IR receiver could drive several motors, each with a slave motor driver. In either method a wire the length of the train is needed to power the rear lights. This wire would need a PF cable per carriage, probably 6 wires. The set has no trans-red cheeses (1x1 slopes) for the second set to make the rear of the train. It's OK - I have a few from other sets - but what about anyone who does not? Of course reversing the train needs the lights to switch or change colour; I have a circuit for that but it is too much to expect from this set. In summary the set is good in itself but does not meet AFOL customer requirements for the recommended upgrades of a motorised double set. It only highlights the inadequacies of Power Functions for all but the smallest trains. The problems can be fixed with these two items: TLG please make the slave motor driver as a proper Power Functions piece. This takes a motor drive signal on C1&C2, isolates it, perhaps with an IR coupler in the brick, has a pole reverse option switch and replicates it with fresh power on the output from another supply, using the standard motor driver chip. TLG please also make inductive charging for the LiPo battery, one coil in a 2-plate high tile between the rails and one in a brick to put under a carriage, with a plug for the battery. This will avoid us having to remove the roof every time we need to charge the battery. Look at mobile phone wireless charging as an example. As a Control Systems Engineer I would be happy to help you develop these items.

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Most Helpful Critical Review

 

cool...

it does look quite cool, but it would be better if it included tracks and power functions

it does look quite cool, but it would be better if it included tracks and power functions

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(1 of 1 customers found this review helpful)

 
4.0

Very Realistic

By LEGOSNCFtrainbuilder

from Portland

Comments about LEGO Creator Expert Horizon Express (10233):

I really enjoyed building this train! Not only because it's very playable but also because it resembles the SNCF TGV trains back in the 80's. But why does it have to be modeled after the old TGV trains? Why not the new ones? I never did figure that out. Anyways, if you want a train to just slap together and call it good, THIS IS NOT THE TRAIN FOR YOU. No, this train is for LEGO fans who actually prefer their trains to have everything brick-built, like the chevrons, brick built doors (I really liked that because the City trains don't have any). I highly recommend this to anyone who loves high speed LEGO trains an who doesn't mind spending a lot of time building this! Nicely designed, LEGO!

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(1 of 1 customers found this review helpful)

 
5.0

amazing!

By brunocampi

from Undisclosed

Comments about LEGO Creator Expert Horizon Express (10233):

i love this set, i think it's very rich in details, a lot of nice pieces. Instructions are for advanced or very familiarized builders. The size is amazing, if i have space in my home, i build 2 sure. My favorite part is the way to build side of the main wagon train and the rich details. minifigs are just awesome, mainly the asian girl. The negative point, in my point of view, its just it dont have train track included, even to display it. Obs. i'm from Brazil, but dont have it in cowntry options :S

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5.0

Quite A Train!

By tonsofstuds

from New Haven

Comments about LEGO Creator Expert Horizon Express (10233):

I've always been waiting for a Lego train that looks a little more sleek and a little more first class than a city train. That Finally became reality when 2013's new year struck. The Creator Expert Horizon Express was released! likes: #1 There were a lot of cool building techniques like the black and white arrow design on the locomotive. It's built out of tiny pieces that fit together #2 The train is filled with all sorts of things, so it's not that hollow. this makes it very sturdy. #3 It's very sophisticated on the inside. What's better than a brick built stall, a built-in bar, and a high-tech desktop all in 2 cars? flaws: #1 I think the tunnels need a little more shape to them, but that's very minor. #2 The set really needs at least some tracks. The train's pretty maxed out, but what's the point of the train if it can't run on any tracks? That's my opinion, what's yours? Press a thumb and let me know! Thanks for reading!

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5.0

Fun to build and share

By broadstbully1

from Folcroft

Comments about LEGO Creator Expert Horizon Express (10233):

I have had a real interest in LEGO trains since my first few purchases of the Santa Fe Super Chief. (Which I wish I finished prior to it retiring) I had seen this set in the LEGO store and passed on it the first time. After looking at it again, I could not pass it up. I had my nephew to help me build it. Well... he played with the loose pieces while I built it. It was a fun and rather interesting build considering the new shapes and configurations of pieces that went into the design of this train. I then decided to go the extra mile and purchase a second one with power functions to have a full train. I have yet to add the power functions but will do so eventually. I may need to buy an extra motor for the reverse direction. I would like to eventually construct a LEGO train yard and showcase this as well as other trains that I may purchase in the future. All in all, this was a great, fun, and interesting build. I would recommend it to anyone.

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5.0

Worth Every Dollar!

By Rohan

from Montreal

Comments about LEGO Creator Expert Horizon Express (10233):

As a Lego fan, I have always loved trains. But this one is my top favourite so far. I was really surprised about the colour scheme, which I found quite interesting. I loved the pattern choice to make the train look sleek. The detail and building techniques used to make this set really blowed my mind, especially the brick built arrows, on the first locomotive. When I saw the designer video associated with this set, the thing that caught my attention the most was when "Jamie", the designer pointed out, "that you would like to play with the set. So that tells us that designers are thinking how to make this set playable. The second and third cars' roofs can be removed at a mid-way point so there can be no struggling to play in the car and to seat the mini figures. Like my title, this set was worth every dollar.

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5.0

Keep this up!

By matthewho622

from CENTRAL

Comments about LEGO Creator Expert Horizon Express (10233):

- The colour models the 1981 version TGV which brings a little retro touch to this modern train. And the orange/black combination is very eye-catching; - I actually like the idea that it did not come with motor, so that it doesn't have to sacrifice nice details such as the giant power generator. I suppose by making it an 'Expert' series, Lego wants to create a set which is good for static display (but on the other hand playable), and to this end details are important. - There are many nice details in the set: the lifting table at the cashier, sliding door at the toilet, newspaper stand, accessible doors etc. I've taken TGV when I was a kid on vacation with my parents and these little details bring back lots of memories. - The whole things employ a lot of new building techniques, which is good for expert Lego builders. The only thing is that this set is a bit pricey (given that it does not come with motor). But as an expert set with so many bricks I'd say it's probably justifiable.

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4.0

I like very much train. ...

By Marcello73

from Undisclosed

Comments about LEGO Creator Expert Horizon Express (10233):

I like very much train. The LEGO designer has done a great job with this train. i motorized the train with Power Function immediately.

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5.0

Great Train

By KDOGS

from Cairns

Comments about LEGO Creator Expert Horizon Express (10233):

I love this train but it really need track. If you buy two sets then you need to motors otherwise it struggles to move. I don't like the join between the two passenger carts but oh well. Please give more options for track. Let us by straight and curved indifferent boxes

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5.0

Fun build, looks great!

By barnaby

from Mobile

Comments about LEGO Creator Expert Horizon Express (10233):

I really enjoyed building this model. It is disappointing that it doesn't come with any tracks, but for the price you get a really great train. I liked the detail that went into creating this train.

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(1 of 1 customers found this review helpful)

 
5.0

6-year old's dream toy

By legoz

from Undisclosed

Comments about LEGO Creator Expert Horizon Express (10233):

My 6-year old has been wanting this train since it came out. He has watched the video about it over and over. He got it for Christmas, and built it by himself in about 6 hours, including adding power functions. He went around pointing out all of the features just like on the video! He says it's AWESOME!

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