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LEGO Creator Expert Horizon Express (10233)

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Fly down the track in the Horizon Express! Collect this highly detailed LEGO® interpretation of a modern, high-speed electric passenger train! The detailed body features black train windows, brick-built chevron detailing, extendable pantographs, printed windscreen and brick-built doors. Remove the roof to play inside 2 detailed passenger cars! Steer from the front engine car with, a control panel and brick-built electrical box! Then take to the tracks in luxury with the first-class car's seats, luggage, newspapers, computer screen and even a bathroom with sliding door! The rear car features a bar with hinged counter, tables for the passengers with seats, a coffee machine, cups and bottles. For the ultimate high-speed experience, attach a second Horizon Express model, or motorize it by adding LEGO Power Functions! Hard-to-find elements include orange LEGO bricks (including 6x28 chassis plate) and printed tiles. Includes 6 minifigures: train engineer, train steward, and 4 passengers.

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049223

C870690F

673419189743

6024477

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4.1 pounds

20.0 x 11.0 x 3.8

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LEGO Creator Expert Horizon Express (10233)
 
4.7

(based on 56 reviews)

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91%

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Most Helpful Positive Review

 

Good Train Set but Upgrades Compromised

Pros: Looks good with detailed brickwork and orange parts Nice minifigures Good techniques to learn Good black 1x2x3 windows - bring back the proper 1x2x3 train window glass piece! New brackets useful for MOCs...Read complete review

Pros: Looks good with detailed brickwork and orange parts Nice minifigures Good techniques to learn Good black 1x2x3 windows - bring back the proper 1x2x3 train window glass piece! New brackets useful for MOCs Value kept up by reduction in wheels & couplings. Cons: Orange baseplates not so useful for MOCs as grey or black. Orange sloped front pieces not so useful for MOCs. The couplings are poor - this is common to all recent LEGO trains. The couplings have rotating magnets inside. This was needed for children's safety so they cannot be swallowed. However, this spaced apart the magnets with air and plastic in between, weakening the coupling grip. Sometimes the grip is particularly weak so that the engine pulls away leaving the coaches behind. This can be cured by waving the two couplings around each other - above, below and at the sides - to unstick the rotation of the magnets. Unfortunately this means the couplings are unreliable and cannot be used for shunting. Cannot expect the user to pick up the engine and coach to wave the magnets every time! I use 2x2 plates with hole (as on the shared bogie), 1x5 thin liftarm and 2 1.5M pegs for permanent couplings for a rake of wagons. This is strong enough for 4 heavy 8x64 coaches. As an "Expert" set this is aimed at the AFOL market. Its advertising in the catalogue suggests adding a second Horizon Express model. This is a deliberate ploy to make the train with two streamlined ends. I bought 2 sets. The advertising also advocates upgrading it with Power Functions. I added all those parts. However, the two recommended upgrades are incompatible with each other. One motor is not enough to power a 6-car train, especially if your layout has any hills. The motor itself is good but you need a medium speed setting just to move the train so there is no fun left in changing speed. My hills are not steep, only up to the maximum of 1 in 30 recommended for model railways. This is 1 plate in 12 studs long. 1 in 40 on curves is 1 plate in 16 studs. The train runs away down a hill and struggles up a hill. Speed 4 or 5/7 of PWM is OK but less will not get up the hill and more can derail at the bottom going down it. 9V trains could use insulating tape to make sections and diodes to drop voltage on the downhill sections but PF trains need an automatic speed setting for each location, driven from an NXT with IR Link sensor (I expect the NXT EV3 with its IR sensor would work just as well when it is released). The train is vulnerable to the shared bogie derailing, especially when the motor is pushing from the rear. This might be just like the real train - some types with shared bogies have suffered this. To motorise a double set there are different ways: a) 2 motors at the front: Needs room for a pole reverser switch in the engine and the 2nd motor will widen the gap to the next carriage. This still has the coupling detachment vulnerability. b) 1 motor at the front and 1 at the back, each engine upgraded as per upgrade instructions: The pulling motor has to be faster than the pushing motor or the train will derail. The two IR receivers in the two engines have to be on the same channel. The rear engine needs a pole reverser switch to reverse its motor as it is the other way round. The two IR receivers have to both get the same signal or the train will derail or split. Multiple motors needing the same signal, combined with the 2-motor power limit of an IR receiver, is a fundamental problem with Power Functions trains that TLG has not addressed. We need a slave motor driver, like the IR receiver but taking a motor drive input instead of IR. Then one IR receiver could drive several motors, each with a slave motor driver. In either method a wire the length of the train is needed to power the rear lights. This wire would need a PF cable per carriage, probably 6 wires. The set has no trans-red cheeses (1x1 slopes) for the second set to make the rear of the train. It's OK - I have a few from other sets - but what about anyone who does not? Of course reversing the train needs the lights to switch or change colour; I have a circuit for that but it is too much to expect from this set. In summary the set is good in itself but does not meet AFOL customer requirements for the recommended upgrades of a motorised double set. It only highlights the inadequacies of Power Functions for all but the smallest trains. The problems can be fixed with these two items: TLG please make the slave motor driver as a proper Power Functions piece. This takes a motor drive signal on C1&C2, isolates it, perhaps with an IR coupler in the brick, has a pole reverse option switch and replicates it with fresh power on the output from another supply, using the standard motor driver chip. TLG please also make inductive charging for the LiPo battery, one coil in a 2-plate high tile between the rails and one in a brick to put under a carriage, with a plug for the battery. This will avoid us having to remove the roof every time we need to charge the battery. Look at mobile phone wireless charging as an example. As a Control Systems Engineer I would be happy to help you develop these items.

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Most Helpful Critical Review

 

cool...

it does look quite cool, but it would be better if it included tracks and power functions

it does look quite cool, but it would be better if it included tracks and power functions

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5.0

Fun build, looks great!

By barnaby

from Mobile

Comments about LEGO Creator Expert Horizon Express (10233):

I really enjoyed building this model. It is disappointing that it doesn't come with any tracks, but for the price you get a really great train. I liked the detail that went into creating this train.

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(1 of 1 customers found this review helpful)

 
5.0

6-year old's dream toy

By legoz

from Undisclosed

Comments about LEGO Creator Expert Horizon Express (10233):

My 6-year old has been wanting this train since it came out. He has watched the video about it over and over. He got it for Christmas, and built it by himself in about 6 hours, including adding power functions. He went around pointing out all of the features just like on the video! He says it's AWESOME!

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5.0

The Train is Leaving the Station

By LEGO Vac

from Eastcoast US

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Pros

  • Creative
  • Realistic Design
  • Selection Of Minifigs

Cons

  • No Train Track Included

Best Uses

  • Imaginative Play
  • Older Children

Comments about LEGO Creator Expert Horizon Express (10233):

One of the latest trains in LEGO's line up is the Horizon Express, an obvious homeage to SNCF's orginal TGV. With it's focus on realism the set is marketed towards older kids and LEGO train fans. The lack of any incldued train track is one major draw back if this is your first trian set purchase. The other drawback is that it looks like half a train, so I'd recomend buying two.

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5.0

Excellent Train!

By Kason

from Undisclosed

Comments about LEGO Creator Expert Horizon Express (10233):

First let me say that this is one of my favorite sets of all time! It uses unique building techniques that the average builder probably hasn't used before but they aren't too difficult for them to follow. The attention to detail that Lego put into this one is top notch. I mean the train even has a restroom. I highly recommend purchasing the power function set and installing it.

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4.0

Needs more power

By Shieldzee

from Brisbane

Comments about LEGO Creator Expert Horizon Express (10233):

After picking up 2 kits from Myers I set a goal to building it being sick Its taken me over 2 weeks to build but in the end I'm happy to see it running around the floor. The only issues I had is 1.not having all free running wheels this was not issue in the end as I have installed 2 train motors in the front train. the 2nd issue was one motor is too weak to pull all cars so a 2nd motor is a must. Getting extra motor was not a issues having a friend who had a store what only deals in LEGO help. All up its a nice train for older people to build but is still fun for the younger ones to play with.

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5.0

The LEGO TGV = Awesome!

By kman25

from London

Comments about LEGO Creator Expert Horizon Express (10233):

The LEGO "Horizon Express" is basically a brilliant replica of a french train: the TGV in orange (no doubt must be th insperation of the set ). I love the appearance and the minifigures - rare heads and torsos make the set even better. I also love the fact that it has a toilet and Bar, as well as newspapers and awesome windows in the magnificent carriages! I will admit it's better with two and the end of the train is open (no barrier/wall so minifigures could fall out; of course with two, this wouldn't happen. And the minifigures aren't able to board the train from ground level - a station with platforms or steps would be a good idea. But these technicalites don't stop the fact that this is the BEST LEGO SET I HAVE EVER HAD! It looks BRILLIANT! (It might be because I love trains but it's a good build and even better value for money) With track and power functions (and a platform/steps for minifigures to get in the train), I'm sure it would make a brilliant LEGO set!

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5.0

Awesome set

By hartho

from Harmelen

Comments about LEGO Creator Expert Horizon Express (10233):

Being a train collector and having missed out on the Maersk set, I wanted this set to be in my collection. This set is not the ordinary train set you usually buy from the Lego trains collection. It really deserves the classification "Lego Creator". Coloration is beautiful, as the amount of details in and on the train. But the best thing is the new building techniques that have been embedded in this set. One outstanding technique is used building the passenger car windows. I scored the value for money the best as I got it as part of the "Crazy Lego Days" discount program held in The Netherlands, which gave me a 25% discount on the retail price. Otherwise I would have given the set one price block less. For the normal retail amount I expected at least to have one engine present in the box.

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5.0

A wonderful train. Wish ...

By unclegdogword

from Undisclosed

Comments about LEGO Creator Expert Horizon Express (10233):

A wonderful train. Wish it came in different colors.

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(18 of 19 customers found this review helpful)

 
5.0

An Amazing Train

By RadiumOxide

from Melbourne

Comments about LEGO Creator Expert Horizon Express (10233):

This train was amazing fun to build, there were lots of techniques I hadn't used before and the instructions were very clear. Once completed it's a very rewarding train, it looks slick and the setup of the train and characters will ensure that kids have fun playing with this. It's been a while since I've purchased new Lego and I was immediately drawn to this train, I knew what I was purchasing and what else I would want to purchase once the train is completed and this is where the set is let down. Power functions and track should be included as a standard when Lego create a train, at the very least it should contain some straight track for those who would like to show case the finished product. I not only find the lack of power functions as a low point to this product but the fact that I need to purchase all of the individual power functions separately. It would be easier and a better customer experience to pick up everything I need off the shelf in one box if I choose to. Parts do still need to be made available separately of course but this set lacks track and power functions both are expensive to buy individually, the cost is comparable to the cost to purchase another train. With that being the only downside to this product I would still whole heartedly recommend this product to anyone looking for a challenge or just the enjoyment of the finished train to show off.

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(8 of 11 customers found this review helpful)

 
5.0

Nice Train

By Onkel

from Trondheim

Comments about LEGO Creator Expert Horizon Express (10233):

I bought this train for my 5 year old son. We built it together. I searched for the parts, and he assembled everything except for a few difficult parts. The LEGO designer has done a great job with this train. It is very detailed and it has some new and exiting building techniques. The train has great resemblance with the original TGV train. We motorized the train with one engine, and found that the traction was not good enough to reach top speed. It was also unable to run with more than the 3 original cars. In order to fix this problem we put in an extra motor in the locomotive. With to motors the we have to run it slower in the corners in order to say on the track. Pros: Detailed train. Can easily be fitted with to motors for top speed. Cons: Need to buy two sets to get the full train. Needs to motors, but you have to figure out how to fit the second motor yourself.

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